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XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby naki_k » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:02 pm

You will be booking in for next years meets then soon i expect?

Check for wiring for the boot light? See if there’s 12v there? Then you know if it’s a supply issue, or the switch?
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90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
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91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby Jaguarxj40 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:08 pm

Jaguarxj40 wrote:Another milestone reached today,

With the exception of the boot light not working which still has me scratching my head, all other electrics are fully functioning as they should including all interior lights. Bulb failure light is now out on the dash. :D

My attention will now turn to the underneath of the rear of the car and give it a good clean up and a lick of paint on the axel and any other parts that may need attention.

Gary.


I've been a little bit inactive of late due to a spell in hospital, nothing to serious just a dodgy gallbladder that needs to be removed in a few weeks. Apparently you don't need it, bit like when you take something to bits and you end up with a few nuts and bolts left over :lol: :lol:

So i need to get the rear axle and other components wire brushed and cleaned up as I've had the car up on axle stands for the last month without being able to touch it :(

Today I have wire brushed the axle in preparation for painting.

This is before.
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This is what I ended up with after I had finished. :D
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I have opted to use chassis black paint rather than hammerite, I find that it goes on really nice with a brush and it can be thinned and sprayed on for those difficult to get to places.

Ideally I would love to remove the whole assembly, strip and sand blast everything but that's a whole big job. Maybe that's for my bucket list :lol:

I will post pictures when I've painted it.

Gary
Current
1996 BMW Z3
1990 Jaguar XJ40 4.0

Previous,in this order.
1986 BMW M535i
1985 BMW 525e
1972 Vauxhall victor FE2300
1966 Ford cortina estate
1961 Renault dauphine Gordini
1978 Range Rover
1976 LR 101 forward control
1968 S2 lightweight Land Rover
1975 Range Rover
1973 Range Rover
1972 series 3 Land Rover SWB

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby katar83 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:05 pm

No more sausages, bacon and fatty meals for you then? I'm addicted to bacon so not sure how would I live without gallbladder and a little pork every now and then :lol:

Regarding the frame, its really easy to remove it, as far as the big bushes come off their mount(mine did) and the bolt next to the bush itself that hold the vertical link to it also comes off(only one of mine came off easily).
To remove it, you undo three bolts that hold the brackets on each side(very easy), clean them up and treat all the rust on them and on the body and you should see whether the bush frees itself easy or not, then try undo the bolt that hold the vertical link. If it comes out on both sides, the only other thing that needs to come out are the 4 bolts that hold the frame to the diff(very easy to undo) and maybe 4 bolts at the front of the frame(also relatively easy).
Diff will stay in its place, you'll just have the frame out with the big bushes, each side will just drop by 20-30cm and will easily go back with a jack.

I did a similar quick clean and repaint of my a frame last year and its exactly as rusty as it was now, after just over 12 months, hence I got another frame that I'm planning to properly derust soon and then swap over the weekend :)

PS

Bolt that I was talking about can be seen here:

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Its the one next to the bush, you can also see one of the 4(?) bolts at the front of the frame that need to come out.
1997, 4.0 LWB X300 - Unlucky car but still a daily driver.
1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
1994, 3.2S XJ40 - Long gone.

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby Jaguarxj40 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:36 pm

katar83 wrote:No more sausages, bacon and fatty meals for you then? I'm addicted to bacon so not sure how would I live without gallbladder and a little pork every now and then :lol:

Regarding the frame, its really easy to remove it, as far as the big bushes come off their mount(mine did) and the bolt next to the bush itself that hold the vertical link to it also comes off(only one of mine came off easily).
To remove it, you undo three bolts that hold the brackets on each side(very easy), clean them up and treat all the rust on them and on the body and you should see whether the bush frees itself easy or not, then try undo the bolt that hold the vertical link. If it comes out on both sides, the only other thing that needs to come out are the 4 bolts that hold the frame to the diff(very easy to undo) and maybe 4 bolts at the front of the frame(also relatively easy).
Diff will stay in its place, you'll just have the frame out with the big bushes, each side will just drop by 20-30cm and will easily go back with a jack.

I did a similar quick clean and repaint of my a frame last year and its exactly as rusty as it was now, after just over 12 months, hence I got another frame that I'm planning to properly derust soon and then swap over the weekend :)

PS

Bolt that I was talking about can be seen here:

Image

Its the one next to the bush, you can also see one of the 4(?) bolts at the front of the frame that need to come out.


Hi Katar,
I don't consider I eat much fat, but your right, I'm gonna miss all that good food like fry ups and such like.
I've been on a low fat diet for the last 4 weeks, at least I can get under the car with ease now :lol: :lol:

That picture is a thing of beauty, it's definently spurred me on to remove it now as you have described how relitivley simple it's going to be removing it as a unit, looking at it from under the car it looks quite daunting but you have convinced me that it looks worse than it actually is.

I will continue to paint it for now in situ as I want to get it back on its wheels before my OP so it's at least movable plus I want the car back on the road by April next year and I still have quite a list of things to do.

Also it will be a good idea to give the car a few shake down miles as it been off the road for some years.

The warmer summer months seams like a good idea plus it will give me time to collect up any parts that I'm going to need in preparation.

Stupid question, I am a very competent spanner man but do you need to remove the shockers first or can they be removed with the unit :?:

Gary.
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1996 BMW Z3
1990 Jaguar XJ40 4.0

Previous,in this order.
1986 BMW M535i
1985 BMW 525e
1972 Vauxhall victor FE2300
1966 Ford cortina estate
1961 Renault dauphine Gordini
1978 Range Rover
1976 LR 101 forward control
1968 S2 lightweight Land Rover
1975 Range Rover
1973 Range Rover
1972 series 3 Land Rover SWB

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby katar83 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:10 pm

Shockers stay where they are, nothing apart from the side brackets(and bolts of course) will need to come out to get the frame out. If you decide to replace shockers(mine are shot and I'll be definitely replacing them) then with the frame out, whole job should be much easier as each side drops a little and decompress.
1997, 4.0 LWB X300 - Unlucky car but still a daily driver.
1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
1994, 3.2S XJ40 - Long gone.

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby Jaguarxj40 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:06 pm

Been in the garage fiddling tonight ;)

Not that you can really see the inside of the boot panel behind the number plate but while I have been trying to fix the non functioning boot light its been anoying me how unfinished it looks from the factory so i decided to create my own finishing touches,

This is what i was faced with.

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Not a pretty sight so I made up some trim panels out of 1mm ABS plastic and trimmed them in the same colour leather as I have some of the interior parts of the car plus it also matches the boot lid liner that I covered a long time ago, while I was at it the light plinth had to be dealt with too.

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Need to find one of those recess handles to fit the remaining hole that's left to finish off,

Right, what's next :?

Gary.
Current
1996 BMW Z3
1990 Jaguar XJ40 4.0

Previous,in this order.
1986 BMW M535i
1985 BMW 525e
1972 Vauxhall victor FE2300
1966 Ford cortina estate
1961 Renault dauphine Gordini
1978 Range Rover
1976 LR 101 forward control
1968 S2 lightweight Land Rover
1975 Range Rover
1973 Range Rover
1972 series 3 Land Rover SWB

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby Aidan » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:41 pm

Very professional looking boot infill panels there, Gary. We expect no less from you :) .
But how did you make the little clips that hold them in place... weld them onto the metal surrounding the holes?
Aidan

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby naki_k » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:03 am

Very nice. Why they did not fit a cover on these pre 93 cars i don't know.

Did you check the little switch, on the RH hinge. They can break in various ways.
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92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
96 4.0 X306 XJR
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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby katar83 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:06 pm

Few more very good pics here on how to get the frame out

http://jaguar.blackonyx.net/tech/shocks.htm
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1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
1994, 3.2S XJ40 - Long gone.

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Re: XJ40 4.0 re-birth.

Postby naki_k » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:11 pm

katar83 wrote:Few more very good pics here on how to get the frame out

http://jaguar.blackonyx.net/tech/shocks.htm


You can tell immediately that’s not a UK based car!
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 3.2 XJ6 SportPack Manual
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
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