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My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

naki_k
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby naki_k » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:51 pm

It’s probably works out better to get a new unit ready done.

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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby Indiana_Jones » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:48 am

So after getting the waterpump sorted, I went for my WOF (like an MOT for you UK lads). Failed on two items, one being the plastic surround on the drivers belt buckle (the part to connect into) had split, so a bit of plastic glue sorted that out.

The other item was a bit more fun to resolve, turns out the side repeaters were not orange during operation (no pun intended).

Now the bulbs used on them are white, and while I could see some ones for sale on Ebay which had orange bulbs, I couldn't see anything to be had locally.

Referring to the image below, you'll note that between the bulb and the external repeater lens is another lens, this one is orange (or is meant to be), to make up for the lack of orange bulb.

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Now it seems that 31 years have taken it their toll on the poor things, they were very faded, so in true Baldrick fashion, a cunning plan was hatched.....I would paint the faded lenses.

Now of course using 'normal' orange paint wouldn't be much use, but a bottle of Tamiya X-26 clear orange paint did the trick nicely.

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Here's a photo of the a painted lenses vs a faded one.

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Retest done the next week and WOF issued, so that's taken care of for the next 6 months.

Thought I'd share in case it is of use to anyone else.

Cheers :)
1987 3.6 Auto Sovereign 506111

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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby pimgmx » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:57 am

Great DIY creativity AND a Baldrick quote: I love it!

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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby naki_k » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:06 pm

Good fix! Another option is an orange bulb, but that would be cheating?
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby Indiana_Jones » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:59 am

Well the orange bulb was my first thought, quick and easy. But alas there were no orange bulbs to be had locally (I wasn't even getting much luck on the bay of evil things), so decided to try the orange paint route. For $4 of paint, it was worth a punt lol :D
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby naki_k » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:09 pm

And a life time supply of orange paint in reserve!
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6 x2
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby Indiana_Jones » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:07 pm

The Sovereign is still ticking along, though I haven't done many km's in her since renewing the water pump (busy with work, study and family etc).

Family friend might want to make use of her as a wedding car, so need to try and get off my arse to fix the blowers. Now going by what I've read on here and other places, a sign the Darlington transistors are poked is that the blowers only operate on 'high' speed. I seem to have the opposite and that my fans only seem to work on 'slow', I can hear a faint noise coming from the area, but feel very little airflow.

Would this be a symptom of the Darlington issue, or something else?

Also, on a similar note, what I believe is the air temp sensor for the cabin (in the middle, where the dash meets the windscreen) seems to be ajar, does anyone have a diagram of how this arrangement works, as I'd like to fix it (I'll try and get a photo up later showing what I mean).

Cheers
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby naki_k » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:49 am

It’s more unusual for blowers to only work on slow. Either way, I would suggest the blowers need to come out in order to fix them. Changes are the bearings are stiff, so there fans are restricted?
Open them up and turn by hand. They should spin freely. Change the transistors as a matter of course. Sooner or later they all go.
Or
I should have a replacement if required?

Check the fuses are not corroded too.
Check if you get 12v at the power plug to the fans. To be thorough.
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
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91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
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93 4.0 Sovereign
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93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby Indiana_Jones » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:23 am

Been a while since an update!

Car for the most part has been fine, only issue is that it appears that half the lights on the VCM screen don't display, but iirc that sounds like it's a dry solder joint issue perhaps?

Also another question, I have an opportunity to grab some blowers from a 1990 on-wards car, would they be compatible with my car? (I understand that AC cars have different blowers to non-AC cars, but did they change at all during the production run?)

Drove her to Christchurch and back (around 850km) and she performed wonderfully and I also removed the ugly chrome wheel arches, no rust under them!

Cheers _b
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Re: My 1987 3.6 Sovereign

Postby naki_k » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:06 pm

Car for the most part has been fine, only issue is that it appears that half the lights on the VCM screen don't display, but iirc that sounds like it's a dry solder joint issue perhaps?
Standard failure on most Digital Dashes by now. Yes you can have a go a resoldering them.

Also another question, I have an opportunity to grab some blowers from a 1990 on-wards car, would they be compatible with my car? (I understand that AC cars have different blowers to non-AC cars, but did they change at all during the production run?).
Changed three times! The actual units look the same, but the plugs kept changing. You may be able to change the plugs? But you can transplant the actual motor (same part)/ some of the guts from them. If they are free/ cheap, and parts like that may be in short supply over there, then yes you can likely use them in some way.
The non AC blowers will actually work on a AC car. It’s unclear what the exact difference is between them?

Drove her to Christchurch and back (around 850km) and she performed wonderfully and I also removed the ugly chrome wheel arches, no rust under them!
Lucky! Normally they are only fitted to hide rust!
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6 x2
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
94 4.0 Daimler
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
Breaking 40/ 300