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1994 Daimler Double Six

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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby nlcrane » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:55 pm

naki_k wrote:Is it certain then that all soldering will fail sooner or later? Even if there is not any movement as such between the points soldered?


In a controlled atmosphere with no vibration or stress then probably no, but we are talking car components here, temperature variations, stress and sometimes severe vibrations is the norm.
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby nlcrane » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:05 pm

I have praised the electronics on these old lady's of ours on several occasions as being state of the art for their time, but they were, however, not built to MIL military specifications, I mean after all they are motor cars and not Chieftain tanks and as such have a purely commercially dictated limited life cycle.
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby richard1983 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:05 am

Thought a little update was in order!

I now have a heritage certificate for the Daimler.

So put put all the guessing to bed - the car was built on the 8th Feb 1993.

Interestingly, it was also marked as dispatched to Hatfields Jaguar of Sheffield on the 19th Feb 1993.

However, as we know - the car wasn't registered until March 1994 and that was on a Coventry 'WDU' number plate. It then became a Jaguar company car.

I have been in touch with Hatfields Jaguar Sheffield - and they have no record of the car at all.

So there is still a mystery as to what happened to the car between Feb 1993 and March 1994.

I'll have to dig a bit more with Jaguar I feel.

My gut feeling though is that perhaps there was something wrong with the car on delivery to Hatfields. So they rejected the car, it went back to Browns Lane and sat there for a year before being put out as a company car - seeing as it was by then a year old and no longer new.

Perhaps we'll never know!

Not much else been going on with the car in the meantime.

Will get cracking with my new years list though soon.

Got some oil and coolant leaks to sort out, new fuel filter, steering bellows, powerflex roll bar bushes, power steering leak/filter, cooling fan switch and new belts/pulley to fit.

It's a start!
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby donkeyotty » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:46 am

This may have changed since I was in the job but cars were normally supplied to a dealership through an allocation system from the manufacturer on a sale or return basis. The car would not be paid for until it was registered or “adopted” at the end of its SOR period when the dealer would have to write a cheque out for it. There is a possibility it was due up for “adoption” but the dealer managed to get Jaguar to take it back. You can imagine that if a dealer had many cars due up for “adoption” on the same day it could cause havoc with the bank balance.
All conjecture of course, as you say we may never know the reason for its return to Jaguar.
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby naki_k » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:36 pm

Will get cracking with my new years list though soon.

Got some oil and coolant leaks to sort out, new fuel filter, steering bellows, powerflex roll bar bushes, power steering leak/filter, cooling fan switch and new belts/pulley to fit.

always plenty to do of course. The weather has improved quite a bit now for the next week or so. so its a good time now. as much as can be good in winter.

Its a fair theory on the delay to register the car. You have to assuem that any DD6 ordered was either customer order, or a demo car really. Though surely even demos would be road registered to even be able to go out on the road.
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby Elsa_jag » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:39 am

naki_k wrote:
Will get cracking with my new years list though soon.

Got some oil and coolant leaks to sort out, new fuel filter, steering bellows, powerflex roll bar bushes, power steering leak/filter, cooling fan switch and new belts/pulley to fit.

always plenty to do of course. The weather has improved quite a bit now for the next week or so. so its a good time now. as much as can be good in winter.

Its a fair theory on the delay to register the car. You have to assuem that any DD6 ordered was either customer order, or a demo car really. Though surely even demos would be road registered to even be able to go out on the road.


Could have been sat pride of place in the middle of the showroom for most of that time, waiting for a buyer and helping to tempt less affluent buyers into more reasonably priced variants.
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby richard1983 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:45 am

naki_k wrote:Its a fair theory on the delay to register the car. You have to assuem that any DD6 ordered was either customer order, or a demo car really. Though surely even demos would be road registered to even be able to go out on the road.


Exactly. You'd think a demo would be registered immediately so it could be put into service. Well, after some time in the showroom perhaps looking all nice and new!

The fact the dealer knows nothing of the car, and they were kind enough to check all the way back to the Feb 1993 records for me - makes me think there was something very wrong with it, so it was sent back.

Or perhaps a customer decided they didn't want it, the dealer didn't want to pay the high price to keep it - so again sent it back to Browns Lane.

It's all very intriguing!
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby richard1983 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:53 am

Elsa_jag wrote:Could have been sat pride of place in the middle of the showroom for most of that time, waiting for a buyer and helping to tempt less affluent buyers into more reasonably priced variants.


Well it's a nice thought that the car could have been a showroom queen for a year! :D

But I can't see why the car would then end up back in Coventry after that year, before being registered and then starting its life as a Jaguar company car.

If I were Hatfields manager in 1993, I'd have kept it after a year in the showroom and registered it there - as I'm sure everyone would be dying to have a go in the V12!
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Re: 1994 Daimler Double Six

Postby donkeyotty » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:13 am

naki_k wrote:Though surely even demos would be road registered to even be able to go out on the road.


That’s what trade plates are for ;)
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