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Considering buying an XJ40

ancaf33
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Considering buying an XJ40

Postby ancaf33 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:30 pm

Hello,
I'm new to the forum, but have enjoyed quite a few Jaguars over the years, Xj40, XKR, XJ6, S-type (they have been in my family, not mine personally)
I am considering buying the following car, its a 1989 XJ40 in green (my favourite). Is it a smart buy or does it have too much rust. Please see attached photos.
It has 23000 Swedish miles, but since my father and my grandfather both had xj40s surpassing 35000 Swedish miles, I am not too worried about that.
It does include a new boot lid :) and some spares.

Thanks in advance :)
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ancaf33
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby ancaf33 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:35 pm

The original steering wheel is included as well, I do want to revert it to stock and take care of it :)

Brake buster
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby Brake buster » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:00 pm

at the end of the day , if you want it , you'll need to get it , as it usually is a heart over head choice in these cases

the rust does seem established in some places, but hey , its only time and money to get it fixed, lol

if you buy it, go in eyes open and enjoy the process , and keep it ' fun ' if you can

best of luck

BB
1994 3.2S in Morocco red and Doeskin/Ruby red interior
1989 V12 XJS White with Mulberry interior
2004 2.1 X-Type Platinum with Champagne Leather interior

previously ,
1999 V8 Sovereign in Seafrost with Oatmeal and Antelope interior

naki_k
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby naki_k » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:08 am

I think you will struggle to find many XJ40 now with no corrosion at all. These of course are the standard places they fail.
I would suggest you do a full inspection before deciding to buy it or not. Ideally get the car in the air and check the entire underside for corrosion/ leaks etc.
Will you be able to undertake all the repairs and maintenance yourself (including welding)? I think that’s the key difference to making cars like this realistically viable.

It comes with a nice set of 16” Lattice wheels too, which is always a good bonus.

Swedish Miles? Are though different to any other Miles?
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6 x2
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
94 4.0 Daimler
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
Breaking 40/ 300

naki_k
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby naki_k » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:10 am

So it’s a Sovereign with a Quad Lamp conversion?

Heated seats are a nice cost option. Very useful for your location no doubt.
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6 x2
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
94 4.0 Daimler
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
Breaking 40/ 300

leo_denmark
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby leo_denmark » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:01 am

naki_k wrote:

Swedish Miles? Are though different to any other Miles?


Quite different, but easy to work with: 23.000 swedish miles = 230.000 km
BR Leo Jensen - Denmark
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XJ40 3.2 LHD 1992 (VIN: ...660341). Owned since Nov 9th 2005
XJ-S V12 coupe 1977 (SW53309BW). Owned since April 28th 2016. http://www.xj-s.dk/home/
Citroën 2CV 1975. Owned since Sep 1st 1984
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ancaf33
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby ancaf33 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:38 am

Is there any specific things I should look out for when I check it out? (tried finding the buyers guide here, but didn't succeed)
It hasn't had an MOT for a few years, and the seller mentioned that the speedo, handbrake and the rust in the front sills might need fixing before passing.
Also I do live in an apartment so I would have to do all the work outside but I guess I would have to invest in a welding machine ( I have welded very little about 10 years ago)

Also I couldn't find which engine it has but the swedish transport agency listed it as having an 149kw engine.
I have worked on a land rover before and a couple of Toyotas, mitsubishi, so I am fairly confident in going the DIY route.

/Karolina

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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby Chris Barney » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:30 pm

I have an 88 Sovereign. It had rust in similar places (they all do). Mine did not appear as bad as this appears and was mainly the rear sill/leading wheel arch.
The problem is it is very close to the rear jacking point a big structural problem. When you start cutting it away it goes much much further than you initially think. Mine took many hours of welding. Luckily my local garage have been working in the car for 10 years and love it nearly as much as me, so was a labour of love for them and they only charged me £500 a side (done over two consecutive years). Well with it.
The main problem with these cars is the are always ‘hidden’ stuff. Not having an MOT for a number of years would also be a concern to me.
Sorry to appear negative, but feel you need to be aware. At the end of the day you will no doubt be smitten like the rest of us and eventually have many hours of enjoyment (and some heartache)
Chris
88 Sovereign 3.6 Auto vin 556271
2010 Q5 2.0 TDI SE
2008 A4 1.8T S Line (DSG)

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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby naki_k » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:07 am

ancaf33 wrote:Is there any specific things I should look out for when I check it out? (tried finding the buyers guide here, but didn't succeed)
It hasn't had an MOT for a few years, and the seller mentioned that the speedo, handbrake and the rust in the front sills might need fixing before passing.
Also I do live in an apartment so I would have to do all the work outside but I guess I would have to invest in a welding machine ( I have welded very little about 10 years ago)

Also I couldn't find which engine it has but the swedish transport agency listed it as having an 149kw engine.
I have worked on a land rover before and a couple of Toyotas, mitsubishi, so I am fairly confident in going the DIY route.

/Karolina


You have a 3.6L engine there.

Checks to make.
Oil/ fluid leaks.
BRAKES!
All electrics. Especially the instrument cluster, hearing, Windows, central locking.
Fault codes listed in the dash.
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6 x2
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
94 4.0 Daimler
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
Breaking 40/ 300

ancaf33
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Re: Considering buying an XJ40

Postby ancaf33 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:29 pm

Aha, maybe I will wait for a nicer example then, It does cost only 15000 sek so it is rather cheap at least. It seems like the speedo also is not working. Btw which engine is the most "economic"? With economic I mean anything under 2l / 10km