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About to buy my 1st XJ40

paulenicholson23
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About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby paulenicholson23 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:13 pm

Hello gentlemen and perhaps ladies, I am very very close to buying the red 1994 XJ40 currently on EBay for £1500. I’m not a mechanic or anything near but I’ve driven the car and it seemed all good. The headlining needs fixing but apart from a bit of rust in the boot it’s completely rust free. It last passed an MOT in October 2013 with no advisories and has done forty miles since then and been kept in a barn. The vendor suggests definitely one new tyre, plug leads and brake pipes. It has new discs and pads. Can anyone please advise me if there is anything I should look for when I go see it again on Thursday.When Indid drive it, it was a pretty limited test down a narrow country lane. I only live an hour away and have visions of it all going spectacularly wrong twenty minutes into the journey.
I’m just concerned as to why the seller hasn’t bothered going to a garage to at least see what MOT status it might make? Any suggestions would be enormously welcome. Thankyou.

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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby donkeyotty » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:50 pm

I cannot believe how someone is trying to sell a car with no MOT for £1500, that has been stood for 5 years, what are they on ??
They seem to think it’s a Jag so it must be worth a bomb. :lol:
It WILL need tyres, brake pipes, discs and pads ( they may have been new then but they are old now, bushes and more bushes, etc etc, plus a headlining.
Has it been stored outside ?? Check the footwells for damp, is the bulkhead sound ??
Buyer beware as they say.......
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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby naki_k » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:13 am

Agree. for this sort of money, you should be looking at an MOT car, you can test drive on the road, and have some peace of mind that its road worthy.
Unless there is something particularly special about this example that warrants a reason to consider it? Or is it only because its nearby to you location? Proximity seems to be a common reason to buy a car.
Be prepared to travel a little further and you should find a better example for your money.
Anything without an MOT, usually falls into the under £300 marker in my book. and theres always a good reason they are not MOT'd. "just needs TLC" or "i just down have time", are not valid excuses.

if you are looking for a "project", and are willing and able to undertake all the work, then offer him £250. Or this car could easily swallow another £1000 to get it road worthy/ legal. Then you are in £2500, and could have bought a decent roadworthy car for that right off the bat.

Where are you located? Members often offer cars amongst themselves on here, and location is a good way to start.
Post a link to the care if its advertised online? Then we can dissect it properly.
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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby old del boy » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:20 am

Seriously ? , you're considering buying a car that's been off the road for five years without an MOT ? , as Don said , this is a long time for a car like this to be idle and could throw up all kinds of problems , and that's why he hasn't offered the car with an MOT .
Make no mistake , the tester will have it up on a ramp and look at things you never imagined , unless this car is something special such as very low mileage or is in exceptional condition why burden yourself with an MOT on an unknown car which you will have to do immediately ?

Have you got a link to the car ? , i've looked and cannot find it , maybe if we could see it , find out a bit more about it we might agree it's worth the money and worth taking a chance but , it's never a good idea to buy the first one you see as you have no yardstick to judge whether it's good value for money , there's cars out there in good condition with an MOT for that kind of money which at least gives you time to get to know the car before the trauma of the MOT .

Personally i would want to look at a few more before purchasing , it's a buyers market and cars without an MOT go cheap [ for good reason ]

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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby Elsa_jag » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:25 am

Take it for an MOT yourself, worst case £50 lost!

Better than shelling out 1500 on a basket case.

Not saying this one is, there are genuine good cars out there with sellers who are detached from reality.

Good thing with your own MOT, gives you a fail sheet to support your reduced offer.
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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby paulenicholson23 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:59 am

Thankyou so much chaps. I knew there be a place where I could find knowledgeable truthful opinions.
Perhaps I’m just an optimist and think I’ve found a bargain and who knows, I might have; but I shall take a lump of caution along with me. I’ll keep you filled in on the progress.
The car is currently on EBay listed as Jaguar Xj40 Gold Edition needs light restoration.£1500.

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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby stevemc » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:06 am

if it is well it will have more rust now been standing for 4 years unless he cut out the rust worm and fixed it all check underneath for lots and lots of underseal

fail list back in 2007

Exhaust emissions hydrocarbon content after 2nd fast idle excessive (7.3.D.3)
Front Brake hose ferrule excessively corroded (3.6.B.4e)
Rear Brake hose ferrule excessively corroded (3.6.B.4e)
Offside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Rear brake disc excessively pitted (3.5.1h)
Offside Rear Sub-frame rubber bush bonding deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)
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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby donkeyotty » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:28 am

Said this before and I will say it again, why do XJ6 Gold cars seem to rust more than other models ??
So recap, £1500 for an mot failure ( mainly corrosion ) that has been stood for 5 years, probably no air con, no cruise, no electric seats and sagging headlining hmmm....... That car has been on eBay before, I recognise the reg, and I tend to agree with Naki’s valuation.
Just walk away Rene........
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Re: About to buy my 1st XJ40

Postby paulenicholson23 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:40 am

Hello chaps, yes it’s the one that a member has put a link to.


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