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The Register Thread

Walker
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby Walker » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:32 pm

I know a lot of cars were sent to the US and it historically is a big market for Jaguar, just how many of them ended up being exported? I suppose the European vehicles would fall victim to rust, well the wetter countries at least. The drier countries maybe see more of them clinging on but inevitably falling out of fashion and scrapped after years of clinging on.

I really must resume collecting them before they all disappear ;)
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby h18spk » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:42 pm

Walker wrote:I know a lot of cars were sent to the US and it historically is a big market for Jaguar, just how many of them ended up being exported? I suppose the European vehicles would fall victim to rust, well the wetter countries at least. The drier countries maybe see more of them clinging on but inevitably falling out of fashion and scrapped after years of clinging on.

I really must resume collecting them before they all disappear ;)


I’ve not done a recent USA count, but at the 50,000th car stat post I had 15,746 confirmed USA cars, I’m now at 52,080. The Americans have some of the nicest survivors.
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby david » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:56 pm

It is remarkable how many cars you have found. Where do you get the information from for the search?
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby pimgmx » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:19 pm

The Dutch DVLA (RDW) has made most of their stuff available through an open data platform.
As to be expected, most documentation & navigation is in Dutch, let me know if a download from their DB is helpful for you...

the daily: 01 S8 http://bit.ly/2kIwP4m
the tractor: 77 LaRo LW https://bit.ly/2Hr9n6y
the eyecatcher: 93 Insignia http://bit.ly/1iGrmsU
the GT: 89 XJS http://bit.ly/1WQGpC5
the project: 95 X306 http://bit.ly/1cW11DN
the pocket rocket: 97 Z3 http://bit.ly/12IfE7B
the ex: 93 3.2 http://bit.ly/14GTNrq

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Re: The Register Thread

Postby h18spk » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:37 pm

pimgmx wrote:The Dutch DVLA (RDW) has made most of their stuff available through an open data platform.
As to be expected, most documentation & navigation is in Dutch, let me know if a download from their DB is helpful for you...


That would be fantastic Pim as international cars are the hardest for me to trace. I’ve been using a couple of fantastic Swiss pages for their cars so will probably be fluent by the end of the year ;-)
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby h18spk » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:48 pm

david wrote:It is remarkable how many cars you have found. Where do you get the information from for the search?


Lots of different places, including a lot of generous national and international owners who help with their own cars.
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby pimgmx » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:09 pm

h18spk wrote:That would be fantastic

I have downloaded a file with all Jaguars with registration dates between 01-01-1986 and april 1995, assuming that it took a while to sell/register the remaining XJ40s after X300 introduction. I then manually removed all Series XJs, XJ(-)Ses and obvious X300s. I translated field labels and some field values to English, to make the file more accessible for the non-Dutch.

There's a small risk that the file still contains X300s, since RDW only registers 'commercial' version names, not factory codes. :(
A more radical registration cut-off date would solve most of that, of course.

And there are more caveats:
- cars that once were registered in NL and have been crushed are not in the list, as are most (but not all, don't ask me why...) cars that have been exported
- VINs are not available. License numbers are, though. Another bureaucracy mystery: VINs are considered too privacy-sensitive, but license numbers are not? :roll:

Only 500-something cars are still registered, of which only ~200 have a current MOT and are allowed on the road.
Roughly 10% of the total number has not been MOT'd for the last fifteen years. :shock:
Fun fact: exactly ONE XJ40 is officially registered as a taxi...

Please PM your email address, Paul, and I'll send you the Excel file.

the daily: 01 S8 http://bit.ly/2kIwP4m
the tractor: 77 LaRo LW https://bit.ly/2Hr9n6y
the eyecatcher: 93 Insignia http://bit.ly/1iGrmsU
the GT: 89 XJS http://bit.ly/1WQGpC5
the project: 95 X306 http://bit.ly/1cW11DN
the pocket rocket: 97 Z3 http://bit.ly/12IfE7B
the ex: 93 3.2 http://bit.ly/14GTNrq

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Re: The Register Thread

Postby h18spk » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:14 pm

pimgmx wrote:
h18spk wrote:That would be fantastic

I have downloaded a file with all Jaguars with registration dates between 01-01-1986 and april 1995, assuming that it took a while to sell/register the remaining XJ40s after X300 introduction. I then manually removed all Series XJs, XJ(-)Ses and obvious X300s. I translated field labels and some field values to English, to make the file more accessible for the non-Dutch.

There's a small risk that the file still contains X300s, since RDW only registers 'commercial' version names, not factory codes. :(
A more radical registration cut-off date would solve most of that, of course.

And there are more caveats:
- cars that once were registered in NL and have been crushed are not in the list, as are most (but not all, don't ask me why...) cars that have been exported
- VINs are not available. License numbers are, though. Another bureaucracy mystery: VINs are considered too privacy-sensitive, but license numbers are not? :roll:

Only 500-something cars are still registered, of which only ~200 have a current MOT and are allowed on the road.
Roughly 10% of the total number has not been MOT'd for the last fifteen years. :shock:
Fun fact: exactly ONE XJ40 is officially registered as a taxi...

Please PM your email address, Paul, and I'll send you the Excel file.


That is great, thank you Pim. I will find a way to make that work. I am in agreement, no one can do anything with a VIN, and no one wants to clone a very niche car for criminal purposes, but the UK has the same view on things as what you guys do, but Sweden, New Zealand, the USA throw VIN's out freely and it doesn't do anyone any harm, and benefits me a great deal. Regardless, I am very very appreciative of you obtaining that info, and I am going to record them all as its information very worth recording.

My e-mail address is xj40register@hotmail.com

Can you imagine that, calling for a taxi and having an XJ40 pull up? A proper car! On a slightly different note, when I flew out to the parents house in Tenerife at New Year this year, I went to the taxi rank, and typical Spanish place, they still have lots of those fantastic Mercedes E-Classes that are built like tanks and comfier than hour chairs at home, love them, but sitting in amongst them, was an old Peugeot 605. I don't know about you but I don't remember seeing one over here in at least 15 years, were always rare in the UK and 99% are scrapped, so I requested it and it was a great experience, I think it was a 1992 car, in perfect condition, so yes, weird taxi's get a big thumbs up from me.
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby nlcrane » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:31 pm

When I went to work on a project for my company in Argentina in 1997, I was given a Peugeot 505 as a company car, it was almost new and after some investigation I found that they were still being built in a factory in Brazil. This same investigation turned up another factory that had been dismantled lock, stock and barrel in Germany and shipped to Brazil where it was used to produced brand new VW beetles. These wannabe motors were not a scratch on the originals as the materials used left much to be desired, the sheet steel used for the body work was thinner than a coke tin for example and if you sat on the wing you would seriously dent it, but they did look the part. The Argentines called these motors “trucha” (trout) meaning, clones, copies, fakes, imitations etc.
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Re: The Register Thread

Postby pimgmx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:00 pm

h18spk wrote:I will find a way to make that work.

Email sent, it's all in your - capable - hands now! ;)

the daily: 01 S8 http://bit.ly/2kIwP4m
the tractor: 77 LaRo LW https://bit.ly/2Hr9n6y
the eyecatcher: 93 Insignia http://bit.ly/1iGrmsU
the GT: 89 XJS http://bit.ly/1WQGpC5
the project: 95 X306 http://bit.ly/1cW11DN
the pocket rocket: 97 Z3 http://bit.ly/12IfE7B
the ex: 93 3.2 http://bit.ly/14GTNrq