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3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby naki_k » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:38 am

There’s various you tube vids with people soldering a condenser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwJEahA ... ture=share
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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby katar83 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:20 am

abercanadian wrote:Not easy to find, but yes, you can get it, about £18 a stick, so not cheap ..

https://www.bes.co.uk/la-co-heat-seal-stik-13929

Cheers

Larry


Thanks Larry! Since I've already ordered and received my special solder alu concoction I'll be attempting to use this first, if that doesn't do the trick I'll go with that seal stik, from what I've seen now it will definitely work fine so good to know there are alternatives to buying a new condenser out there.
The solder I've ordered has a melting point of 300C and is specifically made for aluminium and was recommended by a friend so fingers crossed will work too.
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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby abercanadian » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:36 pm

Hey no worries!

If you're planning to be self-sufficient in your A/C work, might be an idea to pick up a set of R134A manifold gauges and a can tapper.

With those tools (and a vacuum pump), you can pretty much fix any part of the A/C system - always replace the receiver dryer though if the system has been open to the elements (e.g holed)

receiver dryer
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Air-Con-Receiver-Drier-33100-NRF-AC-Dryer-Filter-Conditioning-CBC9754-MMD7410AA/233099791182?fits=Plat_Gen%3AX300&epid=1844035790&hash=item3645d48b4e:g:OscAAOSwlt9cQex4

manifold set
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/800psi-HVAC-A-C-Refrigeration-Kit-AC-Manifold-Gauge-Set-Auto-Service-Kit/254057869808?hash=item3b270771f0:g:AgMAAOSwvI9c9M9K

can tap
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-For-Car-339-R-134A-Refrigerant-Can-Bottle-Tap-Tapper-Opener-1-4-Flare-HVAC/233022437755?hash=item364138397b:g:ElwAAOSw8Vtb~NhH

My personal choice for getting into the cans of refrigerant is a side can tap - it pierces the can instead of screwing on the top ...can be used on conventional R134A cans but was handy in my case as I discovered some brands of aerosol dust-off cans (without a screw on fitting) are filled with R134A not R152A and for a few years I ran my car on dust-off.

side can tap
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SIDE-Can-TAP-Tapper-FJC-6040-R134-R134a-R12-R22-Refrigerant/163261046256?epid=227543234&hash=item26031dddf0:g:YhUAAOSwuIRbnnLD

The only bits I found hard to match on the late 40 were all the o-rings - the usual universal assortment kits didn't have the right sizes, they'd be the right diameter but not quite thick enough (gauge).

Oh and the valves were a problem for a bit, but luckily Pim found out the how what and where about them and that got sorted out too!

Good luck

Larry
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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby abercanadian » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:55 pm

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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby katar83 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:34 pm

abercanadian wrote:Hey no worries!

If you're planning to be self-sufficient in your A/C work, might be an idea to pick up a set of R134A manifold gauges and a can tapper (...)



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8-)

More on this after I get my repairs sorted :geek: :ugeek:
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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby abercanadian » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:45 pm

You da man! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby katar83 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:13 am

Success!

Pulled a vacuum for approx an hour
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Just when I was going to switch it off compressor started to rattle, sadly didn't get to it on time to switch it off and this happened :evil:

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Now need to weld it as new conn rods are unobtanium or cost silly monies, then replace the bearing and cup. Bearing is easy, cup is another story... :evil:

Anyway, I've put a little gas into the system, replaced the pulley and belt and checked it yesterday to see if it still holds and it did.

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So now just need to top it up. I have two old chinese cans of R134a but annoyingly they aren't 1/2 acme thread :evil: Thread on the can is slightly bigger and I have no idea what tap I'd need for it so ordered a side tapper and will use this when it arrives, so just need to wait few more days for the cold air, but at least I know that my repair worked well.
1997, 4.0 LWB X300 - Unlucky car but still a daily driver.
1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
1994, 3.2S XJ40 - Long gone.

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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby abercanadian » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:51 pm

You'll be glad you got that side tapper! Sounds like you've fixed the leak, so good news ...too bad about the compressor though, did it run out of oil?

I got a 1/3 HP flavour of one of these to pull the vacuum instead of using the compressor intake - they work great.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/710-VACS-Vacuum-Pump-3-CFM-Rotary-Vane-Single-Stage-1-4-HP-HVAC-degassing/162111539484

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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby katar83 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:02 pm

Its an oilless thomas gardner denver compressor Larry, made in the US. Its just the bearing decided to disintegrate for whatever reason, go figure :roll:

Initially I wanted to go with the standard pump as well, but then thought I'd want the ability to actually recover gas in the system instead of leaking it into the air :lol: With this working I can pretty much do a mobile ac service for all my friends too, shame it failed so spectacularly but hopefully will get it fixed soon.
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1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
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Re: 3 years later and I'm still fixing accident damage...

Postby abercanadian » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:19 pm

katar83 wrote:Initially I wanted to go with the standard pump as well, but then thought I'd want the ability to actually recover gas in the system instead of leaking it into the air :lol:


Good for you mate! Electric car on order I presume? :lol:

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