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Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

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Erik
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby Erik » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:20 pm

Good to know BB, I need to research a bit. Thanks for sharing that. Luckily the mechanic that usually works on my MGA has two XJ40 parts cars that might come in handy. They told me they don't really want to take on this job though haha but I'll try to convince them. Hope no major surprises are hiding under the surface.
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby naki_k » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:11 am

xj40 paul wrote:Just a quick comment , if you do take the rubber seal off , you cannot refit it without taking the windscreen out , I tried for hours to refit my seal but to no avail , regards Paul .


It’s worth noting the stainless strim/ outer seal type is totally different on the early cars 86-87!
So it requires different fitting/ removal. But it looks like Erik has figured out how to remove it.
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby Erik » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:48 pm

Lifted that thin plastic cover on the outer sill of the boot. After four days garaged it was still wet under there since the last rainy drive. And pretty grimey. But surprisingly no rust there on the flat surface... After a bit of a wipe down the paint is as good as new! Probably won't refit that black cover, just leave it off.

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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby Brake buster » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:58 pm

well, thats good news and one less worry to contend with at least.....

BB :)
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby katar83 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:09 pm

Time to lift up that boot seal now then ;)
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby Erik » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:12 pm

katar83 wrote:Time to lift up that boot seal now then ;)


Not sure I’m brave enough haha!
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby naki_k » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:25 am

katar83 wrote:Time to lift up that boot seal now then ;)


Also check the seam join under the upright carpet at the back. I can show you some horrors of how that can turn out.
It’s worth blocking off the grommet holes on that flat surface (with some silicone sealer), to stop water entering there.
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby Erik » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:11 am

naki_k wrote:
katar83 wrote:Time to lift up that boot seal now then ;)


Also check the seam join under the upright carpet at the back. I can show you some horrors of how that can turn out.
It’s worth blocking off the grommet holes on that flat surface (with some silicone sealer), to stop water entering there.


Hi Naki,

A few weeks ago I removed all carpeting and sound insulation from the trunk (except the foam insulation behind the fuel tank which was unreachable), washing/cleaning the carpeting and replacing the insulation. After scraping off rust.

The grommet holes you mentioned, under the small vertical rectangular carpet on the back inside wall of the trunk, were pretty corroded. To the extend that two of the four holes are now too big to fit the grommet back in again. I scraped off the rust but didn’t cover those holes with silicone as they were too wide. But I’ll take tour advice and revisit the area, something can definitely be done short of welding, as a temporary measure at least. Do you have pictures of that area during your restoration?

Btw I saw some post where I believe your XJR was on the cover of a magazine, it looked great! Do you have a PDF of that article?

Thanks

Erik
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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby naki_k » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:01 pm

This is what you want to try and avoid!

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Re: Rear windscreen - seal and rust issues

Postby naki_k » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:03 pm

The water enters through these 4 grommet holes.

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90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 3.2 XJ6 SportPack Manual
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93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
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