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L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Walker
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:55 pm

Thank you Aidan for your reply! I really hope that anybody flicking though the forum humming and hawing about either buying an XJ40 or just where to start having just purchased one and starting a list come across this thread. I'm not a trained mechanic, I'm just pottering around with the car. If you can follow a Haynes manual and have a half decent socket set the rest does follow along.
The only way we are going to have XJ40s to complain about in 30 years time is if people start saving them and not just parting them out. So if I can help you when you take the dive Aidan or anybody else for that matter, give me a shout. I'm not the first to do this, and there are other members out there with much more of a clue then me, but this will need to become a more common topic for later model year cars.

Anyway, enough about me have a look at herself:

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The rear of the new panel has been treated to the high zinc primer mentioned before. The green colour has also been mentioned before and is acting as a top coat for the internal area of the chamber. The top edge is sporting a weldable primer for later on...

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I've gone with a half and half approach to the jaguar service sheet. The panel is bolted in place along the bottom edge. There is a high peaked bead of panel sealant along the top edge of the lower lip that once compressed and clamped in place has flattened evenly and sealed up the chamber edges. I've been in touch with the guy that took the rear screen out when I did the headliner and he should be free after Easter to take the front out. The top edge will then be welded shut and the final welding (woop!) will be finished on the scuttle ends.

Saturday was an eye opener as I had all the painted suspension parts on the bench and realised that was then out of action for any kind of work until the part are back in the car, so we started here :

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And now looks like:

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There is a lot more fettling to do regarding waxoyl and painting the brake line brackets in the arch, but looking a bit better now. The shock turrets were rather clean, pleasantly, but we're brushed back and zinc primed then undersealed. I stopped there, couldn't see the point in farting about with new wheel bearings as I would just have to work around the wheel hub for the next few months, a bit wide at the shoulder for crawling about under cars as it is!

If you've put up with me this far you would remember the slightly backward way I took the suspension assembly to bits. I had therefore not seen just how much clearance you need under the car to get the springs in and out. I switched tackle halfway into the 1st one and picked the front end up with the engine crane, the exhaust is still in place at the rear and the pipe finishers we're about 3 inches off the deck during the spring fitting!

I'd like to get on with the paint side of things in the engine bay soon, I can't really get going until that's done. I have removed the 'camouflage' from the n/s footwell and will and will be cutting out the bad from there soon. I don't really want to be doing bits here and here and oh here as it starts to get a bit half arsed, so not moving much further back until the bay is looking healthier.

I've been putting off taking out the fuel lines, I've been under, and made excuses, but I know they're a pain. I'd forgotten the pipes coming out of the tank are flexi and not steel so will just disconnect them at the filter side, I've disconnected those once before and well, that was one too many times!
Kingfisher Blue '40 1993 3.2S #690760 L399GYP

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Aidan » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:31 pm

Thanks for the offer of advice and encouragement, Walker.

The mechanical side doesn't worry me too much. I've recently re-built almost all the front suspension, brakes and steering of my XC90 so I have a fair supply of tools, including a 10 ton press and a compressor/ jack/ axle stands etc. It's the bodywork and electrics that worries me, but with a calm attitude and plenty of advice and encouragement from people like your good self and the rest of the team at XJ40, I like to think my Sport will avoid the scrap-heap and take to the roads once more.

Your car's suspension looks superb, as does that rather snazzy looking bulkhead panel!

Regards,
Aidan

1994 Moroccan Red XJ40 3,2 Sport ("Ruby")
1995 Jade Green X300 3,2 Sovereign ("Jade")
2005 Cedar Green Pearl Volvo XC 90 SE - Sold
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby old del boy » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:38 pm

I've been following your build with interest and you're doing a great job for a bloke with just a Haynes manual and a socket set ;)

I also think we're living in the last days of large petrol engined motoring , restorations like these are already a niche hobby and will eventually die out as governments carry on with their aim to save the planet , it could well be that in 30 years time cars like ours could be restricted to shows only so the longer we keep them running as regular transport the better , so make the most of it while you still can .
Keep up the excellent work , the front suspension is just lovely :)

Derek..
'93 4.0L Daimler, solent blue,
'93 4.0L Daimler, Westminster,
'85 2600 Rover sd1 vdp oporto.

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby katar83 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:20 am

Nice to put all new clean parts together, how was your fight with the wishbone bushes? Press? Compressed directly on rubber? Fuel lines are normally only bad at the rear, even my XJS fuel lines are fine front to 3/4 end of the car, then its a bit of a different story from there :lol: You're planning to replace them? Entire line or just sections?
1996, 3.2 SWB X300 - Finally a rust free daily driver :)
1997, 4.0 LWB X300 - Unlucky car.
1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
1994, 3.2S XJ40 - Long gone.

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:28 pm

Great to hear back from you guys, if anything the forum serves as a sounding board and keeps me moving on roughly the right way!

old del boy wrote:I also think we're living in the last days of large petrol engined motoring , restorations like these are already a niche hobby
Derek..


I must admit I've been pecked into not driving the Jag when I could have, but when it's all back together I'll be upsetting the Mrs and making sure it gets out a bit more.

I often thought of it a bit like the Vulcan, cracking bit of work, but not allowed out to play. I wonder how well the eventual demise of internal combustion will be policed, especially up here in the brave old north. I drive the length and breadth of the place with work and apart from the rare ANPR cameras your pretty much left to it, hurrah.

As for fuel lines I they got mentioned the first time I put it in for the mot, I asked him to show me as it was up on the ramp still and it's just a slight ginge on the coupling on the return by the filter, they look to have been cleaned up in the last ooh 10 years or so.

I'm was day dreaming today about them, as you do, I could easily get them dipped and galvanised through work. We use a company in the central belt that have a 6m capacity tank, and have a minimum order to justify the run of about 1 ton of bits, so these long awkward pipes could easily be included.

Anybody ever renewed the fittings? I was reading Naki's post about them, here: https://www.xj40.com/viewtopic.php?t=995927

2 litres of HFE Kingfisher Blue is on order for the engine bay, all the way from sunny Aberdeen.

Blasted and primed a heap of odds and ends for the car today, in the hopes of one day seeing my shed floor again...
Kingfisher Blue '40 1993 3.2S #690760 L399GYP

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:34 pm

A picture is worth a thousand words, so less from me and more of this ;

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I have received the reproduction engine bay stickers from Jag_Sticker, a seller I found on eBay. Aside from offering earlier XJ40 and XJS stickers, Dave was more than happy to adjust and provide some really excellent products for my car.

I hope by sharing these with you guys on here we can show a need for this kind of thing going forward, it would be great to see things like this not be an impossible find for cars that need inner wing repairs.

I can highly recommend getting in touch with Dave, indeed I will be asking him about others as I find the time. Quality and finish are nigh on identical to the originals, and the 4.0 emissions sticker would be available should you require it.
Kingfisher Blue '40 1993 3.2S #690760 L399GYP

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Brake buster » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:11 pm

Dave is a great bloke, and does quality work with these decals

he actually sent me a few prototypes for the airflow meters last year to see if they were ok , a few tweaks and got them to look fantastic

BB
1994 3.2S in Morocco red and Doeskin/Ruby red interior
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby naki_k » Sun May 12, 2019 1:06 pm

Great work and enthusiasm.

“The only way we are going to have XJ40s to complain about in 30 years time is if people start saving them and not just parting them out.”

That statement nicely encapsulates where we are at. There simply needs to be more people saving these cars. The vast majority all need all the same work now, to a lesser or greater extent. In my opinion, Jason’s car is above average overall. Most surviving examples needing more work than this.
Mint examples like Derek’s Daimler being the exception to the rule.
How many examples are lucky enough to get lavished upon like this 3.2s?
88 3.6 XJ6 PDH/CEM
90 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.9 V8 LPG
91 4.0 XJ6 Manual
92 4.0 XJR Manual
92 4.0 XJR
93 3.2s - 4.0 Manual conv
93 4.0 Sovereign
93 6.0 XJ81 DD6 x2
93 6.0 XJ81 XJ12
94 4.0 XJR
94 4.0 Daimler
96 4.0 X306 XJR
96 4.0 X300 D6
97 4.0 X300 Sport Manual
2000 LR Discovery ES TD5 A
Breaking 40/ 300

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Tue May 28, 2019 8:36 am

As always Naki a hat tip to your reply, I hadn't been online for long enough to see it. These kind words only encourage and reinforce the mission aim of not cocking it up!

Just a very quick update on this as I want to assure you lot this hasn't stalled. Progress is being made daily and slowly but surely I've inched toward having the engine bay in primer. The passenger footwell has been the expected search and destroy of rust with the usual small scabs being discovered and cut out, one large piece swapped along the sill edge and 2 at the toe end of the floor. Just really the driver side to tackle which looks so much better, then that will be 'stage 1' ie. The front half of the car welded and hopefully corrosion free. I'm holding off on paint until all hot work is finished, then hopefully painting before our holiday in July :P .

Then we can get that engine back in! I had better hold off on the spending for a month or so as Mrs W is now assuming financial control of the administration, often the end of all things fun. My search for a heated screen has also came up to nothing, David manners no longer have the x300 part, so maybe just a non heated new one to go back in. Ach well as they say. This was more of a gimmick for the spec list then anything, as when it's cold or wet the car will be staying under her cover anyway.
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby katar83 » Tue May 28, 2019 11:03 am

No x300 heated screens? :shock: Where do companies like autoglass get them from normally? I've replaced mine 3 times and was planning to get another this winter as got a massive chip in it again, luckily behind the mirror so not that annoying.
1996, 3.2 SWB X300 - Finally a rust free daily driver :)
1997, 4.0 LWB X300 - Unlucky car.
1988, 3.6S XJS - Never ending restoration project.
1994, 3.2S X300 - Accident damaged, October 2015. Gone!
1994, 3.2S XJ40 - Long gone.


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