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richard1983
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby richard1983 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:50 pm

To my ear, it does sound like both sides are squeaking when I get someone to bounce the rear of the car and I listen at each wheel. But I don't think its at the wheels. It must be something towards the centre, like the wishbone bushes or something. Hopefully the weather will improve soon and take it for another run. Perhaps I'll drench the bushes in silicone lubricant and see if that makes any difference. I guess if the squeak stops - then we have a result and know what to replace.
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby leo_denmark » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:15 pm

Lower swing arm bushes at diff end is rubber bushes. Outside is a press fit, inner is clamped tight. Same way as in front suspension. Movement is exclusively in the rubber, so it’s not likely they can cause noise.
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby richard1983 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:51 am

Seeing as we've had some nice weather, I have had the car out for a play. Can't really say that I'm any wiser as to what's causing the noise. I have found the O/S front brake disc dust catcher was loose and that the front upper damper bushes have need replacing - so that answers the noise in the front.
The rear all looks ok though. I did try silicone lube on the inner rear wishbone bushes, which did remove most of the noise. After a drive though, the noise came back. So that's the place to investigate further at the moment.
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby naki_k » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:51 am

richard1983 wrote:Hello again all. My squeaky rear suspension seems to have....
The car has had dampers over the past year. ?


I have seen this before after new rear dampers have been fitted. It’s usually because the top Nut has not been tightened enough. Thus allowing some movement, where there should not be any.

Who fitted the Dampers?
It’s a bit of a pain to drop the suspension again, but quite likely nipping up that Nut will sort it.
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby richard1983 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:30 am

naki_k wrote:
richard1983 wrote:Hello again all. My squeaky rear suspension seems to have....
The car has had dampers over the past year. ?


I have seen this before after new rear dampers have been fitted. It’s usually because the top Nut has not been tightened enough. Thus allowing some movement, where there should not be any.

Who fitted the Dampers?
It’s a bit of a pain to drop the suspension again, but quite likely nipping up that Nut will sort it.


The new dampers were fitted with new springs and a-frame bushes last year (just before the diff problems annoyingly!), by Keith at XJ Restorations.

The car is off to him in June for its MoT and for him to have a look at what's going on back there - so I shall mention the top nut to him.

The strange thing is that it doesn't sound like its coming from the dampers, it sounds more towards the diff to me. But with the low stance of these cars, its not too good to get underneath and then have someone bounce the car!
To my ear, its a groaning sound - like something old and worn-out complaining. Which makes me think of bushes somewhere.

I guess, it could also be lack of use. The car has been garaged over winter and has only just started to come out and play again. We shall see what happens over April and May.
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby naki_k » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:39 pm

Ok, the Nut May have worked loose/the bush may have compressed a little further. It could be a matter of half a turn.
Yes, there could be other things too. Pretty much anything can wear out.
Check the taper roller bearings on the lower hub pivot pin/ fulcrum bolt, plus A Frame bushes.
anyhow, if it’s going back to Keith, I know he will sort it.

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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby richard1983 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:07 pm

naki_k wrote:Ok, the Nut May have worked loose/the bush may have compressed a little further. It could be a matter of half a turn.
Yes, there could be other things too. Pretty much anything can wear out.
Check the taper roller bearings on the lower hub pivot pin/ fulcrum bolt, plus A Frame bushes.
anyhow, if it’s going back to Keith, I know he will sort it.

Number 15 on the illustration.

https://www.jaguarclassicparts.com/uk/part/CAC4610


Thanks for the input on that. I'm stuck at work now, but when I get home in May - I'll have another good poke around.

It's hard to pinpoint this, and I don't like going under such a low car and having someone bounce the suspension with me under it!

Like I said, Keith can also have another look when it goes for its MoT in June. That'll see it right if I can't!
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby richard1983 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:27 pm

naki_k wrote:anyhow, if it’s going back to Keith, I know he will sort it.


Been offered a Daimler Double Six for a good price by Keith too.

Lovely car, and I'd love to have a V12 - but I just don't have the room for it.

I've borrowed it before and it is beautiful, but it also needs a hell of a lot of work. Plenty needed just to get it through an MOT right now. Keith recommends a full rebuild and paint job. :o

Still, it is very nice. I would have it happily despite the work required, but just don't have anywhere to put it! Most annoying! Need more garaging!:(

It looked nice on the driveway when I borrowed it for a couple of days!

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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby richard1983 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:21 pm

All that for two bulbs in the clock!

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Nice to have it working again though!
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Re: New member - hopefully.

Postby Rory » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:35 pm

It's the little things :D
Has your squeak been sorted?

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