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L399GYP 1993 3.2S

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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby carlmt » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:18 pm

Now THIS is what the Forum is all about!!!!!

Facebook cannot hope to compete with a thread / topic like this - thanks for keeping us all up to date on progress.

This will be a very valuable resource for the future - without doubt!

CT 8-)
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby SovverBovver » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:31 pm

Walker wrote: I have paint ready to go in the form of a posh zinc phosphate primer and a 2 pack black top coat readily used on our offshore projects which should do the trick.


I'm planning to use similar offshore paint on my car. What is the brand you use?
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:40 pm

The top coat will be by the flavour of choice, International, product is Interlac 665 black, primer is also by them called interprime 251. We have onsite paint facility's, will be applied in a heated booth with an airless spray pump and baked, thickness tested and inspected, well you have to get your moneys worth don't you!

I don't want to scratch it putting the bushes in.... :lol:
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:55 pm

carlmt wrote:Now THIS is what the Forum is all about!!!!!

Facebook cannot hope to compete with a thread / topic like this - thanks for keeping us all up to date on progress.

This will be a very valuable resource for the future - without doubt!

CT 8-)


Sorry Carl I missed this, too kind! Well I do hope to contribute in a meaningful way and hopefully not just a lot of tosh. I only have half a clue about the work I'm doing because of the works already documented by past and present members on here, thanks to them all.

Keep up the good fight!
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby SovverBovver » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:17 pm

Walker wrote:
I don't want to scratch it putting the bushes in.... :lol:


Thanks - good to know.

I hope the bushes don't spoil the finish, though I suppose it's not too difficult to touch it up again.
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:25 pm

So, its been a wee while and work has slowed a fraction this week on the car. Until now! The parts gathered up for blasting have met the machine, and received their first coat of primer. I've taken them back home to put the bushes in, and as you can see the paint has suffered a fraction. As I say this is a thin primer coat, a second thickness coat should be on tomorrow.

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Front subframe bushes were removed and new ones installed with a little gadget I've had for a couple of years and not used, just happened to need 3 mill taking off the larger dolly and it fits a '40 bush perfectly.

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So back to the paint room for more primer and hopefully start seeing black parts coming back next week. Subframe is already looking a bit more like it, quite chuffed with getting the bushes in it I thought I'd be asking a garage (read farther in law) to do that.

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Think I mentioned before the bolts in threads are all being replaced, I just screw them back in to stop the threads being either shot blasted of filled with grit / paint.

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May have kept myself right with this ;)
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I like this sort of progress, especially after a lot of taking things to bits it's good to see at least somthing going back together. It's another victory in the war on rust.
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby naki_k » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:39 pm

Great progress.
You are keeping good momentum.
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Walker » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:44 pm

Well I did get some spanner time this weekend. My poor car is certainly looking rather sad, but I keep reminding both 'her and myself it only needs to look this serious to get it all sorted.

So! Here we go, for those of you who enjoy a rusty bulkhead I will certainly not disappoint. For those looking for a relaxing picture show of a well appointed engine bay do check back later ;)

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Now I have the new panel I have mentioned before out on some of those pictures for a little encouragement. There are a few differences between the one on my car and the new one. I do believe the panel to be for the earlier engine bay as certain fixed nuts and holes are different, as are a few pressed angles, but nothing that cant be tweaked.

The cabin side of the bulkhead certainly isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I did find more filler in the footwells that with delicate extraction (stabbed to death with a screwdriver) has revealed a bit more welding to do.

So next weekend my wife is doing a charity run. The good husband that I am, I've volunteered to keep out her way and hopefully will be drilling out spot welds. I'm looking forward to starting the metal work, that's where turning point will be found.
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby donkeyotty » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:04 pm

Looking forward to seeing how this panel fits, not sure that anyone on the forum has actually fitted one yet. Have you seen the TSB that describes the fitting procedure, iirc it is supposed to be bonded in place but welding would obviously be preferable. Whilst photos are great I would also take plenty of measurements using a fixed point as a datum, location of studs, distance between fasteners etc especially the wiper motor housing fasteners. I would also trial fit the wiper housing before you put the engine back in.
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Re: L399GYP 1993 3.2S

Postby Brake buster » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:25 pm

some excellent work and pictures, and we can see the issues you face, and the apparent common issues all XJ40's can face

may i make some observations ?

it seems to me that the majority of the rust repairs to the bulkhead are actually the lower panel , as in the one under the repair panel you have sourced, i know how good it feels to ' let in ' new panels in place of rusty sections, but also know how much work is involved and how much un necessary work to remove a full panel when only a few square inches are actually rotten ,

the upper panel only seems to need the two extreme edges above the bonnet catches to be repaired and the upper screen scuttle sections, and the lower panel need a large section in the middle as seen ,

so my thoughts would be to target only the actual rotten areas with repair sections as required, therefore minimising destructive removal of good metal, and keeping the majority of the original mounting points that are not on the replacement panel ,

ether way , i find this thread very interesting to follow and hope it all goes very smoothly

BB

ps, one small comment on ' bonding ' , it is currently commonly used in vehicle construction on steel and aluminium as well as composite materials , and in most cases is stronger than spot welds if carried our correctly , spot welds only knit together at that point, and can ' tear ' the steel if separated , bonding is continuous along the joint , and much stronger,
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